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		<title>McLaren, Wallis and Friends Back Abortion-Expanding Health Care Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/mclaren-wallis-and-friends-back-abortion-expanding-health-care-bill/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A dazzling array of socialists, heretics, and assorted mystic warriors has signed on to a letter urging passage of the abortion-funding health care bill. They call themselves &#8220;evangelicals&#8221;, apparently the term du jour for anyone with crackpot religious views and a fondness for the economic ideas of Karl Marx. The &#8220;evangelical left&#8221; (or what&#8217;s left [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dazzling array of socialists, heretics, and assorted mystic warriors has signed on to a letter urging passage of the abortion-funding health care bill. They call themselves &#8220;evangelicals&#8221;, apparently the term <em>du jour</em> for anyone with crackpot religious views and a fondness for the economic ideas of Karl Marx. The &#8220;evangelical left&#8221; (or <em>what&#8217;s left</em> of evangelicalism) is now coming into its own as our radical President reaches out for all the help he can get. Brian McLaren, Jim Wallis, Ron Sider and cohorts are completely at peace with taxpayer funding for the butchery of preborn children. They, you see, represent Social Justice, even if it has to be built on the whited bones of innocent babies. Here&#8217;s the statement from the Institute for Religion in Democracy that warns about these religious wolves.</p>
<p>Washington, DC—Believing firm restrictions on government funded abortions are no longer possible, evangelical left officials are jettisoning traditional evangelical pro-life convictions to back the U.S. Senate version of Obamacare now before the U.S. House of Representatives.</p>
<p>The evangelical left initially sought to consolidate liberal evangelical support behind Obamacare by promising protections against government funded abortions. Now some evangelical left officials are claiming such protections are unnecessary.</p>
<p>A letter sent this week to Congress from some prominent liberal evangelicals claims information about abortion provisions in the Senate health care bill is misleading and urges Congress urgently to support the Senate version of Obamacare. In contrast, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops opposes the Senate’s Obamacare, pointing out it lacks the House version’s clear restriction against government funded abortions.</p>
<p>Evangelical signers of the congressional letter include Evangelicals for Social Action President Ron Sider, Sojourners chief Jim Wallis, Florida megachurch pastor and National Association of Evangelicals Board Member Joel Hunter, New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good Chair David P. Gushee, Emergent Church guru Brian McLaren and Glen Stassen of Fuller Theological Seminary.</p>
<p>IRD President Mark Tooley commented:</p>
<p>“For the mostly new Evangelical Left and the old Religious Left, government-imposed health care is a long-time totem for which their activists have toiled across years and decades.</p>
<p>“Politically liberal evangelicals remain anxious to pass the bill, even without the Stupak-Pitts language that some of them previously supported.</p>
<p>“Evangelical Left activists like Jim Wallis desperately want Obamacare despite possible abortion funding.</p>
<p>“For the Evangelical Left, when their espoused pro-life views conflict with messianic hopes for socialized health care, Obamacare wins.</p>
<p><em>The Institute on Religion and Democracy, founded in 1981, is an ecumenical alliance of U.S. Christians working to reform their churches’ social witness, in accord with biblical and historic Christian teachings, thereby contributing to the renewal of democratic society at home and abroad.<br />
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<p><a href="www.TheIRD.org">www.TheIRD.org</a></p>
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		<title>Episcopal Clown Car Keeps on Rolling</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Proving once again that there&#8217;s more than one kind of circus church, the Institute for Religion in Democracy has issued this statement regarding the latest bishop approved by the Jerry Springer Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles.
Washington, DC—A controversial candidate for bishop in the U.S. Episcopal Church has received the necessary approval, according to the Episcopal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proving once again that there&#8217;s more than one kind of circus church, the Institute for Religion in Democracy has issued this statement regarding the latest bishop approved by the <del datetime="2010-03-17T22:30:54+00:00">Jerry Springer</del> Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Washington, DC—A controversial candidate for bishop in the U.S. Episcopal Church has received the necessary approval, according to the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles. Following her December election, the Rev. Canon Mary Glasspool of Baltimore needed to obtain consent from a majority of bishops and diocesan standing committees.</p>
<p>Glasspool will become the first partnered openly lesbian bishop in the worldwide Anglican Communion if she is installed as scheduled on May 15.</p>
<p>After the partnered openly homosexual Gene Robinson was installed as Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire in 2003, bodies of the worldwide Anglican Communion warned the Episcopal Church not to repeat the action. It observed a moratorium on consecration of non-celibate homosexual bishops for a time, but lifted the moratorium at last year’s General Convention.</p>
<p>Jeff Walton, Director of IRD’s Anglican Action Program, commented:</p>
<p>“Glasspool’s election is unfortunate because she has unapologetically taken sexual expression outside of the God-ordained boundary of Holy Matrimony. In the view of the wider Anglican Communion, this practice makes her unqualified to serve in the role of a bishop.</p>
<p>“Glasspool’s election is the next step in the Episcopal Church’s liberalizing trajectory. After revoking a moratorium on the consecration of non-celibate homosexual bishops during its July General Convention, the denomination made clear that it was going to proceed on this route, despite protests from other Anglicans.</p>
<p>“Consent to Glasspool’s election by the Episcopal Church shows how little the U.S.-based denomination cares about what other parts of the global Anglican Communion believe.</p>
<p>“The majority of the Episcopal Church is increasingly practicing a separate faith than what most worldwide Anglicans practice.</p>
<p>“Glasspool’s election and consecration comes at the same time as the Episcopal Church reports steep declines in attendance. Interestingly, the traditionalist Anglican Church in North America (AC-NA) has added 100 new congregations since July.”</p>
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		<title>Arizona Town Rethinks Attack on Religious Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/arizona-towns-rethinks-attack-on-religious-freedom/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Town officials in Gilbert, Arizona are taking a second look at their unconstitutional, anti-Bible study ordinance, and they&#8217;re now thinking about &#8220;allowing&#8221; such things in homes. How considerate of them to &#8220;allow&#8221; what the Constitution of the United States has allowed from the beginning. After getting their tail feathers singed in national media exposure for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Town officials in Gilbert, Arizona are taking a second look at their unconstitutional, anti-Bible study ordinance, and they&#8217;re now thinking about &#8220;allowing&#8221; such things in homes. How considerate of them to &#8220;allow&#8221; what the Constitution of the United States has allowed from the beginning. After getting their tail feathers singed in national media exposure for their unconstitutional conduct, the city fathers are backtracking and &#8220;remain committed to religious freedom.&#8221; Well, being that they&#8217;re still part of the United States of America, it&#8217;s a jolly good thing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=128094">Read more at Worldnetdaily.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>Theology After Google: The New Liberalism</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/theology-after-google-the-new-liberalism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much is happening in the emergent church world these days. To stay on top of what is happening is a challenge. Tony Jones is the poster boy for the new &#8220;progressive&#8221; churches (the new term for emergent), and he recently hosted a conference called &#8220;Theology After Google.&#8221; In Tony Jones&#8217; world, everything must change and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much is happening in the emergent church world these days. To stay on top of what is happening is a challenge. Tony Jones is the poster boy for the new &#8220;progressive&#8221; churches (the new term for emergent), and he recently hosted a conference called &#8220;Theology After Google.&#8221; In Tony Jones&#8217; world, everything must change and old landmarks must be thrown out. In his world of smoke and mirrors, landmarks are unnecessary. It&#8217;s &#8220;Wiki-theology.&#8221; Rather than resting on the bedrock truths of Holy Scripture, you can enter a spiritual world of ever-changing electronic graffiti where anybody who wants to spray paint a newly crafted theological &#8220;truth&#8221; on the wall is welcome. Wiki-theology, indeed.</p>
<p>Ken Silva at Apprising Ministries has the unsavory task of tracking these emergent trends. He has a raft of articles on the &#8220;Theology After Google&#8221; conference that are helpful in tracing the latest methods of the emergent blind who lead the blind. <a href="http://apprising.org/2010/03/15/tony-jones-and-tripp-fuller-on-theology-after-google/">In this article</a>, you can see video of Mr. Jones unveiling his new approach to theology in front of his attendees. <a href="http://apprising.org/2010/03/15/the-non-gospel-of-the-emerging-church-2-0/">In this piece</a>, Ken Silva describes the non-gospel these men represent. Tony Jones is a spiritual rebel, and he is training others in spiritual rebellion under the guise of a new, more relevant approach to Christian theology. It is theology, but be warned. There is nothing Christian about it.</p>
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		<title>Youth Pastor Facing Investigation Over Helping Rifqa Bary</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/youth-pastor-facing-investigation-over-helping-rifqa-bary/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In America, a teacher who helps a teenager get an abortion behind parents&#8217; backs is hailed as a hero. If you help a teen escape from Islamic parents who have threatened to kill her, you may face charges, however. Worldnetdaily reports:
The chief of a law firm that has promised to defend a youth pastor reportedly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, a teacher who helps a teenager get an abortion behind parents&#8217; backs is hailed as a hero. If you help a teen escape from Islamic parents who have threatened to kill her, you may face charges, however. Worldnetdaily reports:</p>
<blockquote><p>The chief of a law firm that has promised to defend a youth pastor reportedly investigated for driving a runaway Muslim-turned-Christian teen to a bus station says the probe is another &#8220;lawfare&#8221; case in which Islamists are trying to intimidate critics of the religion.</p>
<p>Ohio authorities are investigating youth pastor Brian Williams for his assistance of Rifqa Bary, 17, who claimed she fled her Muslim parents last year because her father threatened to kill her after learning she had become a Christian. <a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=127802">Read story here</a>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Victoria&#8217;s Secret is Inspiration for Sermon Series</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/victorias-secret-is-inspiration-for-sermon-series/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Victoria&#8217;s Secret is apparently the inspiration for a sermon series on sex at yet another relevant church. &#8220;Victorious Secrets&#8221; is the name of the series. All of this takes on a surreal quality. How did it ever come to this? A Little Leaven has more.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victoria&#8217;s Secret is apparently the inspiration for a sermon series on sex at <a href="http://aviatorchurch.com/media/victorious-secrets-week-4/">yet another relevant church. </a>&#8220;Victorious Secrets&#8221; is the name of the series. All of this takes on a surreal quality. How did it ever come to this? <a href="http://www.alittleleaven.com/2010/03/victorious-secrets.html#tpe-action-resize-271">A Little Leaven has more.</a></p>
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		<title>Ed Young Rolls Out of Bed and Speaks to the World</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/ed-young-rolls-out-of-bed-and-speaks-to-the-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know that things have hit a new low when celebrity pastors no longer bother to get dressed or comb their hair before addressing the world. YouTube has a clip of Pastor Ed Young delivering his fascinating plans for the week while in his bathrobe and featuring bed-head hair. When you are that important, you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know that things have hit a new low when celebrity pastors no longer bother to get dressed or comb their hair before addressing the world. YouTube has a clip of Pastor Ed Young delivering his fascinating plans for the week while in his bathrobe and featuring bed-head hair. When you are that important, you don&#8217;t actually have to bother to put clothes on or comb your hair. The world is waiting for your next tweet, your next video blog, your next sentence. They want to know what you ate for breakfast, what digestive disturbances you are having, and what your sleep attire looks like. Tommy Tenney<a href="http://twitter.com/TommyTenney/status/10285978672"> tweeted about how &#8220;brave&#8221; Ed Young was</a> to go online in his bathrobe. No Tommy, that&#8217;s not bravery, that&#8217;s called narcissism.</p>
<p>Looks like Young may be starting a whole new trend. Webcams in bedrooms might replace plexiglass pulpits soon, actually. Cutting-edge pastors can read their borrowed sermons while wearing their Sponge Bob jammies, and congregations can stay at home in their own jammies to watch it online. Remember that you read it here first.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s Three Fads in One!</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/its-three-fads-in-one/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I posted a link to Dr. John MacArthur&#8217;s piece on the great evangelical mess we see around us. I preceded his link with comments about the various fads in the church over the years, including but not limited to, Stryper, the 80&#8217;s Christian alternative to KISS, as well as the Left Behind money-maker. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I <a href="http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/gty-how-did-we-make-such-an-evangelical-mess/">posted a link to Dr. John MacArthur&#8217;s piece</a> on the great evangelical mess we see around us. I preceded his link with comments about the various fads in the church over the years, including but not limited to, Stryper, the 80&#8217;s Christian alternative to KISS, as well as the Left Behind money-maker. Today, a press release arrived that promotes not one of these fads, but three. In my earlier piece, I left out Digital Praise, another evangelical product that supposedly provides a Christian response to DDR (Dance Dance Revolution.) You really can&#8217;t make this stuff up.</p>
<blockquote><p>NEWARK, Calif., March 10 /Christian Newswire/ &#8212; Digital Praise® Inc, the leader in Christian-themed, family-friendly entertainment software and currently under pending merger agreement with Left Behind Games (OTC: LFBG), today announced it has entered into a strategic relationship with Stryper, the top- selling Christian metal band. Together, Digital Praise and Stryper intend to develop new products leveraging the band&#8217;s top live performance recordings. </p>
<p>&#8220;This is our first opportunity to license music directly from a top Christian artist,&#8221; said Tom Bean, President and CEO of Digital Praise. &#8220;It is unbelievable to be working with Stryper, the first openly Christian heavy metal band to gain recognition in the mainstream music world. The idea of creating the first band-specific expansion packs for our guitar and dance games is another first for Stryper.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Since 1984, Stryper has always been a band on the cutting edge that has broken down barriers,&#8221; said Dave Rose of talent agency Deep South Entertainment, which represents Stryper. &#8220;During their 25th Anniversary World Tour, legions of loyal Stryper fans have been coming out to experience the energy of their favorite Stryper songs performed live. So it&#8217;s exciting that Digital Praise is planning on merging the world of interactive games and the live Stryper experience. Both Stryper and Digital Praise are once again on the cutting edge of technology and music. We&#8217;re thrilled to be involved.&#8221; </p>
<p>Digital Praise is excited to be working with Stryper and has already started working with many of the live Stryper recordings. </p>
<p>About Stryper:<br />
Looking back over the last 25 years, Stryper is considered a groundbreaking act by all accounts. Since the band&#8217;s label debut in 1984, the quartet has sold more than 8 million albums worldwide. The first Christian rock band to enjoy decided success in the mainstream market, Stryper&#8217;s RIAA certified platinum 1986 magnum opus To Hell with the Devil is listed among the &#8220;100 Greatest Albums in Christian Music&#8221; as designated by CCM Magazine. One of the most mesmerizing stage acts still today, Stryper received tremendous exposure on television&#8217;s MTV and VH1, paving the way for more faith- fueled bands to be considered for airplay. &#8220;We attribute so much of our success to God,&#8221; Stryper founding member Michael Sweet says unashamedly. &#8220;He has orchestrated this band, and His hand has been on it from the beginning. We often ask Him, &#8216;Why did You choose us?&#8217; We are just average guys who He has continued to use in amazing ways.&#8221; For more information about Stryper and the upcoming tour, visit www.stryper.com. </p>
<p>About Digital Praise Inc.<br />
Digital Praise is a developer of family-friendly Christian entertainment software for personal computers and other devices including iPhones. The company produces, publishes and distributes titles for families who enjoy interactive entertainment software with principled character-building themes and &#8220;just good clean fun.&#8221; On February 25, 2010, Left Behind Games, Inc. (OTC: LFBG) announced that it has entered into an agreement to merge with Digital Praise, making Digital Praise its wholly-owned subsidiary. Pending SEC approval, the transaction is anticipated to close in Q2 of 2010. For more information, visit www.digitalpraise.com&#8230;
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		<title>T.D. Jakes and the Eroticizing of Communion</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/03/t-d-jakes-and-the-eroticizing-of-communion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[T.D. Jakes will be a featured speaker at Willow Creek&#8217;s Global Leadership Summit 2010. Jakes denial of the Trinity is no problem for Bill Hybels who only teaches leadership skills. Where leaders are actually taking people doesn&#8217;t concern him in the least. Worse still, Jakes is now turning Communion into an erotic act. Pastor Larry [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.D. Jakes will be a featured speaker at Willow Creek&#8217;s Global <a href="http://www.willowcreek.com/events/leadership/2010/index.asp">Leadership Summit 2010</a>. Jakes denial of the Trinity is no problem for Bill Hybels who only teaches leadership skills. Where leaders are actually taking people doesn&#8217;t concern him in the least. Worse still, Jakes is now turning Communion into an erotic act. Pastor Larry DeBruyn has <a href="http://guardinghisflock.com/2010/03/04/eroticizing-the-eucharist-1/">written an article warning</a> about Jakes&#8217; teachings. Here&#8217;s just one example from T.D. Jakes:</p>
<blockquote><p>When Jesus says, ‘Take, eat. This is my body that was broken for you,’ He says, I want my body in you. (Pause . . . shouts and claps) I want my blood in you. And every time you celebrate this rite, it is a reminder that you belong to me, and I belong to you. And he said, ‘I will drink no more wine until I drink it new with you and the kingdom of God. Communion is the most romantic ordinance. Eh, Eh, Eh. (He laughs. Pause . . . the audience shouts and claps.) It is the most romantic ordinance between two lovers.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Monvee: the Latest Church Growth Tool</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingrid Schlueter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Better Than Sacrifice blog has an excellent post about the latest &#8220;innovative&#8221; way to build your congregation. It&#8217;s heading to a church near you:
The folks from Leadership Network are into innovation in a big way. And they have something shiny and new. It’s called Monvee.
Remember, Leadership Network is the organization that helped infect the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Better Than Sacrifice blog has an excellent post about the latest &#8220;innovative&#8221; way to build your congregation. It&#8217;s heading to a church near you:</p>
<blockquote><p>The folks from Leadership Network are into innovation in a big way. And they have something shiny and new. It’s called Monvee.</p>
<p>Remember, Leadership Network is the organization that helped infect the church with the twin blights of Seeker Drivenism and Emergence Christianity. Leadership Network has marketing clout, and knows how to use it. Monvee could be huge.</p>
<p>One of the problems with the Church Growth Movement’s seeker-driven approach to mass-producing disciples is that it has largely failed to consider how to make disciples who are growing into spiritual maturity in Christ. When the most mature members of your own congregation tell you that they are ‘not being fed’, there’s a problem. And when the mainstream media writes that ‘megachurches like Saddleback are market-driven, with transcendence not on the menu’, and worse, describes you as the ‘butt end of Christianity’ using the words ‘bland, cheerful, dull’, the scary prospect of irrelevance beckons. And with irrelevance comes that worst nightmare of the Church Growth CEO pastor – stagnant or shrinking congregations. <a href="http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/2010/03/07/spiritual-growth-there%E2%80%99s-an-app-for-that/">Read the post here</a>.</p></blockquote>
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