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	<title>Comments on: John Crowder and &#8220;The New Mystics&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: &#34;reformed&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;reformed&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdlexU4eT4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdlexU4eT4&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdlexU4eT4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdlexU4eT4</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;reformed&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;reformed&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouTube video of Crowder&#039;s &amp; Dunn&#039;s testimony of their perpetual &quot;Jehovajuana&quot; high, &quot;intoxicated&quot; interpretation of Pentecost, and other blasphemies, backed up by a passing reference to Piper, for the benefit of addicts who are on crack, but who will not &quot;crack&quot; the Bible. The message here is explicit: &quot;There is no greater high than the Most High&quot;, and you can get an equivalent high if you put your trust in these two. Not a single mention of Christ as Saviour and Redeemer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouTube video of Crowder&#39;s &#038; Dunn&#39;s testimony of their perpetual &#8220;Jehovajuana&#8221; high, &#8220;intoxicated&#8221; interpretation of Pentecost, and other blasphemies, backed up by a passing reference to Piper, for the benefit of addicts who are on crack, but who will not &#8220;crack&#8221; the Bible. The message here is explicit: &#8220;There is no greater high than the Most High&#8221;, and you can get an equivalent high if you put your trust in these two. Not a single mention of Christ as Saviour and Redeemer.</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;reformed&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;reformed&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Kansas based Nazarene mysticism, youth ministry not to be overlooked: &lt;br&gt;Mike King&#039;s Youth Front at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youthfront.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.youthfront.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youthfrontzone.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.youthfrontzone.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;First Third &quot;theology conversation&quot; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthird.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.firstthird.org&lt;/a&gt;, sponsored by Mike King (of &lt;a href=&quot;http://king.typepad.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://king.typepad.com&lt;/a&gt;) which will include Dr. Kenda Dean of Luther Theological Seminary, St. Paul, MN (specialist in &quot;passion&quot;), and Dr. Andrew Root (specialist in &quot;relationality&quot;).&lt;br&gt;One of Mike King&#039;s associates is Chris Folmsbee whose Barefoot Ministries (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barefootministries.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.barefootministries.com&lt;/a&gt;) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.anewkindofyouthministry.com&lt;/a&gt;, peddles a youth book series (10 books) categorized as &quot;Ancient Faith Series: Lectio Divina for Youth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Kansas based Nazarene mysticism, youth ministry not to be overlooked: <br />Mike King&#39;s Youth Front at: <a href="http://www.youthfront.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youthfront.com</a> and <a href="http://www.youthfrontzone.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youthfrontzone.com</a> <br />First Third &#8220;theology conversation&#8221; at <a href="http://www.firstthird.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstthird.org</a>, sponsored by Mike King (of <a href="http://king.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://king.typepad.com</a>) which will include Dr. Kenda Dean of Luther Theological Seminary, St. Paul, MN (specialist in &#8220;passion&#8221;), and Dr. Andrew Root (specialist in &#8220;relationality&#8221;).<br />One of Mike King&#39;s associates is Chris Folmsbee whose Barefoot Ministries (<a href="http://www.barefootministries.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.barefootministries.com</a>) and <a href="http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.anewkindofyouthministry.com</a>, peddles a youth book series (10 books) categorized as &#8220;Ancient Faith Series: Lectio Divina for Youth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;reformed&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2402</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;reformed&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazarene Mysticism: See more on Jay McDaniel at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://sadnazarene.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sadnazarene.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt; and a site for faithful Nazarenes trying to counter emergence Christianity and mysticism within the denomination: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.concernednazarenes.org/page12.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.concernednazarenes.org/page12.php&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazarene Mysticism: See more on Jay McDaniel at: <a href="http://sadnazarene.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://sadnazarene.wordpress.com</a> and a site for faithful Nazarenes trying to counter emergence Christianity and mysticism within the denomination: <a href="http://www.concernednazarenes.org/page12.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.concernednazarenes.org/page12.php</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;reformed&#34;</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2401</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;reformed&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Mystics: Some recent research has shown John Crowder, his wife and Ben Dunn have buddied with Jay McDaniel, professor of religion at Hendrix College, AR and Northwest Nazarene University, Idaho, to engage in &quot;Tokin the Ghost&quot; at the Slosh Fest in Wales this year. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.the&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://newmystics.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;newmystics.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emergewales.com/SloshFest_2010.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.emergewales.com/SloshFest_2010.html&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Mystics: Some recent research has shown John Crowder, his wife and Ben Dunn have buddied with Jay McDaniel, professor of religion at Hendrix College, AR and Northwest Nazarene University, Idaho, to engage in &#8220;Tokin the Ghost&#8221; at the Slosh Fest in Wales this year. See: <a href="http://www.the" rel="nofollow">http://www.the</a> <a href="http://newmystics.com" rel="nofollow">newmystics.com</a> and <a href="http://www.emergewales.com/SloshFest_2010.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.emergewales.com/SloshFest_2010.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron42</title>
		<link>http://www.crosstalkblog.com/2010/02/john-crowder-and-the-new-mystics/comment-page-1/#comment-2390</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commenting as a (Charismatic) pastor who has just been through a painful church split:  I&#039;ve found that the spirit of this movement can be even more dangerous than its teachings.  When a group in our church found out that we weren&#039;t receptive to mystic teaching and practices, they dedicated themselves to our destruction.  The rest is history.  Thanks for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting as a (Charismatic) pastor who has just been through a painful church split:  I&#39;ve found that the spirit of this movement can be even more dangerous than its teachings.  When a group in our church found out that we weren&#39;t receptive to mystic teaching and practices, they dedicated themselves to our destruction.  The rest is history.  Thanks for the article.</p>
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